Comments on: Flash Is For Famous People! http://webtrainingwheels.com/2009/08/flash-is-for-famous-people/ WordPress & Online Marketing Training / Consulting. Call me at: (323) 920-5297 (9am - 6pm PST, Mon-Fri) or email anytime: lucy@webtrainingwheels.com Sun, 13 May 2012 06:25:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: LucyBeer http://webtrainingwheels.com/2009/08/flash-is-for-famous-people/comment-page-1/#comment-9461 LucyBeer Fri, 11 Feb 2011 15:44:40 +0000 http://www.webtrainingwheels.com/?p=67#comment-9461 Hi Bryan Thanks for the insightful comment. Of course, there are ways to implement Flash as your agency does, which are not evil and in fact very well done. However this seems to be the exception rather than the rule, and unfortunately one has to be fairly knowledgeable as a potential client, to know enough to ask for a fully optimized site as you describe. Newbies can easily get taken advantage of without knowing all these ins and outs. Hi Bryan
Thanks for the insightful comment. Of course, there are ways to implement Flash as your agency does, which are not evil and in fact very well done. However this seems to be the exception rather than the rule, and unfortunately one has to be fairly knowledgeable as a potential client, to know enough to ask for a fully optimized site as you describe. Newbies can easily get taken advantage of without knowing all these ins and outs.

]]> By: Bryan Grezeszak http://webtrainingwheels.com/2009/08/flash-is-for-famous-people/comment-page-1/#comment-9174 Bryan Grezeszak Wed, 22 Dec 2010 18:24:30 +0000 http://www.webtrainingwheels.com/?p=67#comment-9174 My agency's website is flash, and we have 0 of the problems you mention. 1) When flash is embedded in a web page it replaces a div full of HTML content. Don't be an idiot and leave that div blank, put HTML content in there for the search engines. We duplicate the flash text content into HTML and put it in that div and it's 100% indexable by all search engines. We even have our google webmasters account proving this and we fetch the page as googlebot and test, it reads it just fine. 2) We optimize each of our flash pages as well. Google has 12 of our 12 pages indexed even though our site pages are deep-linked flash. It takes about 10 minutes to write a PHP script that recognizes the incoming url and serves HTML content for each individual page depending on the url being asked for instead of just the home page content. 3) Our pages don't take any longer to load than any other site. In fact that's one reason we chose flash is for more control over things such as loading images in order instead of starting all at once, that way even pages with lots of images to display the user doesn't have to wait. The important thing to learn from this is: Flash isn't bad. People that don't know what their doing with flash make bad flash (and the same can be said for HTML). Get someone who is a flash expert and you end up with a site that excels at getting traffic and converting that traffic :) My agency's website is flash, and we have 0 of the problems you mention.

1) When flash is embedded in a web page it replaces a div full of HTML content. Don't be an idiot and leave that div blank, put HTML content in there for the search engines. We duplicate the flash text content into HTML and put it in that div and it's 100% indexable by all search engines. We even have our google webmasters account proving this and we fetch the page as googlebot and test, it reads it just fine.

2) We optimize each of our flash pages as well. Google has 12 of our 12 pages indexed even though our site pages are deep-linked flash. It takes about 10 minutes to write a PHP script that recognizes the incoming url and serves HTML content for each individual page depending on the url being asked for instead of just the home page content.

3) Our pages don't take any longer to load than any other site. In fact that's one reason we chose flash is for more control over things such as loading images in order instead of starting all at once, that way even pages with lots of images to display the user doesn't have to wait.

The important thing to learn from this is: Flash isn't bad. People that don't know what their doing with flash make bad flash (and the same can be said for HTML). Get someone who is a flash expert and you end up with a site that excels at getting traffic and converting that traffic :)

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